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Death Discreation

2009-10-12T01:38:59Z

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=death+discreation

I tried the tribe links but they don't work. The formula is an article. ANY SURVIVORS?

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You are God

2008-05-19T15:58:38Z

Note to self:

You are god. This may seem very egotistical, but actually it becomes clear that it’s just the opposite as you come to understand the next statement.

You are alone. This does not mean that you loose your family, friends and loved ones that gave you so much comfort throughout your life; it just means that they were never separate from you to begin with. They are within you.

Your mind creates the world around you. When you die you do not dissolve back into the world around you but instead the world dissolves back into your mind.

When you come into this world you have departed from reality into a world of illusion. You have departed from the real and eternal into the unreal and temporary. This is a paradox because you never really left in the first place. There is no reason for this journey because by its very nature something that is untrue is also unreasonable and so it is that there can be no answer to the question why. It is simply natural that you are not perfect in this world and that you grow old and die. These are the characteristics of that which is not true.

Your higher self (God) is no more concerned about this process than you are concerned about falling asleep at night or expelling a breath. In fact, this process is the breath of life itself and eternal awakening.

With love,

You

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what if immortality is expensive?

2008-05-14T16:37:30Z

All the major corporations, captains of industry, and political leaders started sincerely making changes for the environment. At first I was pleased - I finally had a car that ran mostly on solar power, then it leaked out that the cure for aging had been discovered but was only available for the super rich and barring an accident, they were immortal. So, they were saving the planet not for the sake of humanity or animals, but for themselves. (didn't actually happen. I get in these modes where I 'remember' fake stuff)

What would you do if the rich and powerful were immortal? That would create quite the class system.

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A question for debate

2008-03-25T16:18:28Z

Ok immortalists, one of your bretheren - Killagrrrl - has been struck down by a brain anurysm.

She has chosen immortality.
She firmly believes that death is a choice, and she definitively chooses to not go there.
She has believed herself immortal for years, and has such a strong constitution, she was rarely ever known to even get a minor headcold.

Currently she is in the intensive care at SF General Hospital in a coma.

So...

Tell me what the immortalists have to say about this. What is keeping her from waking up? Do you expect a full recovery? I think she would expect it of the rest of you. That is to say, she would expect it as long as you had no doubts about your immortality, and she clearly did not doubt it for a minute.

Where do your opinions reside?

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Talkin' 'bout regeneration!

2008-03-25T16:13:00Z

Finally, the mainstream news is taking note of regeneration research:
http://www.happynews.com/news/442006/lab-grows-bladders-from-cells-of-patients.htm
But from my perspective, this is old news -- old news that should have been heavily publicized for years!

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Salads?

2008-03-25T16:04:40Z

I'm not a vegtable promoter but I happen to think salads are important. The most important ingredient of course, is, lettuce.

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Breathing

2008-03-25T16:00:44Z

Breathing in the nose and out the mouth is promoted and I think this is good for nose health. Consider though the reverse, in the mouth and out the nose. I think this simply leads to more fuel from the air. Obviously the situation is what to think over and then its just an instinct.

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Nothing useful here

2008-03-25T15:57:55Z

So far I haven't seen anything here that I could actually use to extend my life. Lots' of hypothetical ideas but not much in the way of concrete information, otherwise known as facts. If anyone has real information that they want to share, I'm all eyes. Where are the centurions that can share what they know here? This is more science fiction fantast about longevity than real science that one can use in a daily regime. I think I'll unsubscribe.
BTW, there are cures for cancer, herpes, HIV and diabetes. Some curanderos of the amazon can do that. I've seen herpes cured 3 times. It's been three years with no outbreaks after taking chaga tea for about a month. If anyone wants to talk real serious longevity, send me a message. I'm outa here./

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The Human Enlightenment Project

2008-03-20T03:03:29Z

~~~ A Tale of Awakening ~~~
The Veil is being lifted at http://wWw.POMOWORLD.com

The Human Enlightenment Project is an infant social network, launched just in September, that is connecting free minds towards the new era of total truth, love, and acceptance. Join us in the movement and enjoy all the mind-expanding media and information you will come across at PomoWorld!

Our mission is to fully represent, connect, and enlighten all kinds of people, while simultaneously working to break down the labels with which society defines and divides them.

The Human Enlightenment Project: A Tale of Awakening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trr96yKnu8Q

It All Begins With Choice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFGlfCm85Ho

The Veil is Being Lifted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPYlQG_XLM

Pomosexuality and the Death of the Label
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxODfmU_iU

Join the Movement!
http://wWw.POMOWORLD.com
Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

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Toes

2008-01-13T23:01:42Z

Pull the tounge up tight if you have elfin, mangled feet so toes point up maybe.

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Blankee Cocoons?

2007-12-23T21:56:46Z

To begin this, have sheets and blankets perfectly washed. Two sessions seem the limit before the next wash with this activity. Put the blankets over oneself, including face and try to lay there for hours or a sleep cycle. I reason the face does not experience the warmth other parts do. Breath is in question as to if this will rejuvinate.

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Here is +15 years

2007-12-11T00:41:00Z

All your juice or other stimulating beverage, use drinking spring water to mix it up. I promise, the beverage will just... take.

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Long life

2007-12-08T19:42:37Z

I spoke with my grandpa yesterday. We were chatting about computer stuff and his wife being ill. My favorite picture of him is where he's boxing some Irish guy in the 20's or 30's. Ofcourse, when I boxed he didn't like it. Anyway, he's a character. He believes the biggest insult you can do to a man is throw his hat on the ground. He talks about honor and integrity, but also about being the oldest person he knows. He's just shy of 100; which I know isn't immortal - but its up there. Pretty much the norm for my family. We hit puberty late (college) and just age slower all around. I'm trying to get used to it. I want immortality (or something close), but I already feel different just having a lifespan that's a third longer. Anybody else in this boat?

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Immortalists Beware!

2007-12-08T19:34:33Z

The new "Mind Police" are attempting to find immortalists and make sure physical immortality isn't attained. The new world order is seeking to implement a singular consciousness, yes, that's right, A.I. into everyone on the planet. Anyone who actually opens the final door to enlightenment(see my website www.lulu.com/trentinspires)is tracked and psychic powers are scanned via MRI. Careful fellow immortalists, the next 20 years of "the loop" are going to be intense, and needs extra care.

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Caloric Restriction

2007-12-08T19:32:55Z

Well really, not so much a diet as a fundemental change in eating habits. For those who are not aware, there is a growing body of research that shows that almost all mammals when kept to a restricted degree of caloric intake tend to live longer and be healthier. This is not simply starving one's self or just cutting back, it is instead eating foods that have the highest nutritional bang for the buck. Mostly fish and dark/colorful veggies. Only now is the understanding as to why this works the way it does starting to emerge (assuming the line of investigation pans out), however most labratory animals that have lived on diets roughly over 2/3's the average intake tend to live significantly longer.

Has anybody been on such a regimen?

I have been slowly paring back my own daily intake with an eventual goal average of about 1200/day

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Herb and diet for longevity

2007-10-31T07:22:27Z

Please share any information regarding herbs and diet for cellular regeneration and body maintenance

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I want to make you immortal...

2007-08-03T15:14:16Z

OK - I don't. Got a question to pose though. In vampire movies, the vampire always says he has made his victim immortal and then they (the new vampire) dies within days. Being stabbed through the heart sucks bad enough when you didn't have an opportunity at immortality.

So, say someone could make you immortal - but - theres a hunter - and due to various newbie difficulties (forget the vapirism specifically) you have a 90% chance of not surviving through the first month. If you survived the first month however, you would probobly live the next 500 years or more. Plus, you'd have the opportunity to create others like you, with the same caveat. Would you go for it?

If you are already immortal, assume you are not for the question.

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transhumanist social network at www.transhumanists.org

2007-05-18T22:23:54Z

If you don't know about it already, come check out the social network for transhumanists at www.transhumanists.org
There is a 'groups' feature for special interest groups and the site is getting better all the time.

Check it out at www.transhumanists.org

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immortality, compassion and love for all who want to listen

2006-11-25T17:43:02Z

hello
The first chapter of my book after 25 years of research has within it the keys to IMMORTALITY IN PREPARATION FOR ASCENSION.
FROM CHAPTER ONE TAKE X the healing factor , apply it to the blood , body and brain, this will make the human body all positive and Immortal, once you have read the book , contact me for the 3 ways it will be done…2 slow , 1 on mass.....(via a pyramid using the Sun and Sirius energy on the dog days).... the the pyramids will be opened later on FOR LIGHT WORKERS,I hope you understand what I am saying...................Tell all your light worker friends to get the book as I am a Light Worker myself, who has been presented now with the understandings of immortality ,which I must give to other light workers. This is the information you have to pass on for the good of all light workers.
in the light
Dominic
I recommend my book ORMUS FROM AUTHORHOUSE
www.authorhouse.com/BookStor...alog.aspx
ORMUS, ORME....WHITE GOLD ...The manna, the white powder of gold, is the food, the light, one takes into their body. It is the FOOD OF THE GODS. A modern day Rabbi might tell you that no one has known how to make the manna, the white powder of Gold, since the destruction of the Temple of Solomon. The technique is, supposedly, a lost art or lost knowledge. But others argue that when the high priests left the Temple (when it was destroyed), the took the secret out into the desert and organized a commune called Qumrun. There, they became the Essenes. Eventually, the white powder was used to nourish a woman named Mary, and eventually, she gave birth to a man named Jesus.
These gifts include: perfect telepathy, the ability to know good and evil when it’s present, and to project thoughts into another person’s mind. There is also the ability to levitate, or to walk on water. By excluding all external magnetic fields (including the Earth’s gravity), the white powder of gold takes one beyond the four dimensional space time continuum, and the individual becomes a fifth dimensional being. They can literally think where they would like to be, and go there. They can heal by the laying on of hands, and can cleanse and resurrect the dead within two or three days after they died. They have so much energy that they can literally embrace people and bring light and energy back into them. We the International Order Of Knight Templars have the keys to Immortality.The International Order of Knight Templars has many hidden esoteric keys about ormus , immortality and 2012.
please take a look at these forums
groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFC...atsnew.msnw
my book ORMUS , HAS THE KEYS TO IMMORTALITY VEILED IN THE FIRST CHAPTER
www.authorhouse.com/BookStor...Home.aspx

LOVE AND LIGHT
DOMINIC

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witches die if you throw water on them, vampires burn

2006-08-30T01:45:05Z

if you were immortal, would you be stuck inside of the same body? would it grow old.....would you stay the same age.....

or would you eventually leave your body and just become some kind of sentient afternoon breeze?

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Life Extension Confrence,.....

2006-08-30T01:04:40Z

The Immortalist Society hosted a Life Extension Confrence in Atlanta Georgia last year in November. Doese anyone here know if there having one this year?

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New Tribe: New Jersey Transhumanist,....

2006-07-21T23:35:34Z

I have recently started a new Tribe on Tribe.Net called "New Jersey Transhumanist.Would anyone here like to join the tribe?

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IMMORTALITY..The keys have been found

2006-06-26T03:06:02Z

THE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HAVE THE KEYS TO IMMORTALITY BY 2012 AND WE WANT TO SHARE THE GOOD NEWS WITH YOU...IT IN THE REALMS OF HARMONICS,PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT TIS FORUM BELOW
INTHE LIGHT
DOMINIC

http://groups.msn.com/KNIGHTSOFTHELIGHT/_whatsnew.msnw

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Feedback would be GREATLY appreciated

2006-05-26T19:40:08Z

Check out my blogs at http://myspace.com/iversonmagic

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First Date Conduct

2006-04-18T00:31:55Z

Should you tell your date that you are immortal on your first encounter?

If not, when?

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Time-Travel Tribe

2006-03-16T17:41:30Z

For all you immortalists who think time-travel might help, please feel free to visit and join "Time-travel Tribe"!

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Virtual Bodies

2005-10-16T00:30:58Z

For an immortalist idea which is technologically achievable in the short term--

As a medical issue, it would be far easier to keep just a brain alive than a whole body. Brain chemistry is simpler than body chemistry and there are no moving parts...

Imagine a brain in a tank being fed the much simpler subset of nutrients that the brain requires--such a brain would have a prospective lifetime far greater than that same brain being supported by a body that is rapidly failing due to degenerative disease. I read where they kept a chicken heart alive (and beating) for 50 years under just such conditions, and a heart definitaly does have moving parts. Such a brain could be kept alive indefinitely with current stem cell technology.

But who wants to live forever if that means eternal sensory deprivation?

So now imagine that brain is hooked up via bio-mechanical synapses into a computer network. These hookups occur at the base of the spinal column as well as the occular, auditory, and olfactory nerves. These nerve hookups are connected to a "virtual body", a 3-d computer representation of the normal human body, existing within a virtual 3D environment (think "Matrix.")

To manipulate that "body" within the 'Matrix' you would do as you've always done--to move the arm of that 'virtual body' you simply do what you do now to raise your arm. You send a complex of signals from your brain, down the spinal column, and your body obeys.

Well this would be no different--you send a complex of signals from your brain down to the bio-mechanical synapse, and the virtual body obeys.

The environment within which this 'virtual body' exists could be , in the short term, as complex as the environment we currently inhabit. In the long term that environment could become much more complex.

Imagine a world where 'magic words' work, where the very laws of reality might change by passing through a doorway.

Such individuals would still be able to work, vote, earn money, etc. but thier physical needs would be minimal. If they want to go four-wheeling, for example, they could do so without any environmental impact. No tire tracks even. It would all take place within the 3D matrix provided by the net.

These people could have a diverse lifestyle within a growing 'virtual environment' which would include all the things we take for granted, and then some. They could have friends, lovers, goals, asperations, interactions as well as confrontations and conflicts. In short, they could have very full lives within an entirely virtual environment.

And they would concievably live forever.

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We are all children

2005-04-05T14:40:27Z

After a few beers ¦¬) and a scan of some intresting uploading/singlarity articles I was thinking that if the future is going to be as predicted then I'm just a child in mental (physical as well) terms. I was recently thinking about my youth and how much of a changed self I am now. But if I were to knew I'd have a vast lifespan and have a vast range of options open to me then my current self would be vastly enriched.

Its odd to think about myself in those terms, it would certainly have profound effect on the human condition. You would never think about slowing down, the aging process. Planning your life would be far less stress free and I wounder what effects this would have on society, for example if you were a woman you needn't worry about time ticking away before you were unable to have a child.

Have a few beers (your particular poison) help me out with this passage of thought

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I'd like to have immortal grandchildren.

2005-03-31T15:57:52Z

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/87/99526.htm

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Meditation for dynamic living, enlightened beings

2005-03-31T10:07:55Z

Hello everyone.

Well, there are many ways to meditate as stated in books and such, but i believe one needs a true Guru/master who has perfected the meditation techniques and is capable of empowering/initiating someone. i've met a Guru like that, and have been taught several techniques which includes a divine shield, healing techniques, goal achieving technique, breathing and meditation. Please read on to find out more. By the way, i'm posting this in other tribes as well, and if this isn't the first time you saw/read this post, i'm sorry.

The Guru's name is Yoga Jnana Sitthar Om Sri Rajayoga Guru Saranam. His Divine Grace is the most powerful sitthar on earth right now who is helping common people like us by initiating/ empowering us. "sitthars" are extremely powerful and enlightened beings who normally would not associate themselves with common people like us. They would be living in forests, mountains etc and meditating there. Sitthars are capable of doing absolutely anything. These beings are able to transform themselves into a mountain/ change into an atom/ materialise things from thin air/ walk on water etc - anything at all! There are many enlightened beings like this at this moment, but only this being right now has chosen to come down and help commoners. In the olden times, commoners who would like to be empowered/ initiated by an enlightened being would have to separate themselves from their family members, and go to the jungles, to live there. They would be staying there serving the Guru that they had chosen, washing the Guru's clothes and doing other services for the Guru. However, at the end of the period of time (which is normally 12 years), it's up to the Guru whether he/she would want to empower that particular person with a particular technique, say the divine shield technique etc. In other words, a commoner who goes to the forests to serve the Guru after a period of 12 years MIGHT be blessed with a divine shield if the Guru is pleased with the disciple's work. Also, the disciples are mostly blessed with A particular technique, and not a bunch of them that i've stated. So, the 12 years is cut down to a one-day course now. Amazing, huh? It's truly a blessing if you ask me. I've been a disciple of His Divine Grace since june 2001, and have been seeing miracles happening before my eyes.

To become a disciple of His Divine Grace, one must attend a programme where he/she would be taught the techniques that i've mentioned earlier. There are no restrictions to take this programme whatsoever, that is, one need NOT become a vegetarian/ quit smoking/ drinking etc if one takes this programme. One would be initiated by His Divine Grace, and would be free to do as he/she pleases. If one practices the techniques taught, one would see miracles happening. This programme would benefit anyone in both, their spiritual AS WELL AS their material life.

Taking the divine shield technique as an example, can you imagine having a divine shield around you 24/7?? meaning you'd be protected from all kinds of dangers - black magic, murders, voodoo, accidents and so on. As one practices the divine shield technique, the shield gets bigger and stronger over time. Say for example, someone took this programme and practised the divine shield technique, and later he got into an accident. But he only escaped with minor bruises on his face. His whole car was smashed etc, but he escaped unharmed. That is the beginning stage. If one even gets into an accident, he/she is saved..but as i mentioned earlier, as one practices the technique, the divine shield gets stronger and stronger, and those kinda incidents wouldn't happen in the first place.

I've had countless numbers of experiences by the blessings of my Master. For example, i used to have asthma, and the specialist told me that asthma is a sickness which cannot be cured, but can only be controlled etc. However, after practicing the healing technique, i've been completely cured from it, and am an asthma-free person till today.

There was this another miracle experienced by another disciple that i know of. He was in the driver seat (with the seat-belt put on), and no one else were there with him at that time. So anyway, as he was driving he got rammed into by a truck and the front part of his car (upto the driver's seat got smashed). The thing was after the accident, the guy realised that he was in the passenger seat (next to the driver seat), with the seat-belt put on. It was like he got transferred from the driver's seat to the passenger's seat before the accident to prevent him from being dead (he sure would have been dead if he was in the driver's seat).

I could go on and on you see, relating experiences, but i'd move on for now.

There is a small payment which is Ringgit Malaysia 730 (a site to convert the Malaysian Ringgit currency to whatever currency your country is using: www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi ) that needs to be made. The money goes for all the poojas that His Divine Grace needs to do before initiating a commoner. This is cause before His Divine Grace can initiate a commoner, part of that person's karma must be absorbed first by His Divine Grace. By the way, these poojas are done in several places in the world by this Guru. I believe that another reason why commoners are supposed to pay to enroll themselves in this programme is cause if one gets it free, one would most likely not appreciate it. On the other hand, if one actually pays a certain amount of hard-earned money, he/she would not want the money to be lost uselessly, and would tend to practice the techniques taught. Some people have told me that the Guru is trying to do some money-making schemes here. LOL. Do you know how ironic that is? Considering the fact that beings like this are capable of materialising the money by themselves, out of thin air.

I once came there's this beautiful quote, which i'd like to share with all of you here: "As we walk on the path of light, we come in touch with the ultimate truth and that ultimate truth is the recognition of being a spirit or soul. We recognize that this human life has a purpose and that the purpose is to not only know ourselves, not only know that we are spirit or soul, but to have our soul merge in God, the source from which we all came. As we understand the purpose of our existence, as we learn the truth, we then try our very best to make that truth available to others."

So that's exactly what i'm trying to do - spreading the Light/ the good word as i've already seen it working for me. It has worked for thousands of people as well.

I've told this to many people online before and some of them found it hard to believe, like it's too good to be true or something, but anyway, i feel it's my duty to let everyone know that something like this truly exists.

I hope all of you have a great day/night.

Light and peace,
nidya

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It's really not that far out of an Idea

2005-03-22T04:24:59Z

Check this...and if cancer isn't an issue any more, how much closer are we...hmmm...

Warburg’s Prime Cause of Cancer Simplified
by Ed McCabe

Adapted from two-time Nobel Prize winner (respiratory enzymes) Dr. Otto Warburg’s: "The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer" and his other papers by Ed McCabe. Lecture delivered to the membership of the Cancer Control Society annual meeting, Labor Day 2001, by Ed McCabe

Postulate - Prime Cause of Cancer
“Because no cancer cell exists, the respiration of which is intact, it cannot be disputed that cancer could be prevented if the respiration of the body cells would be kept intact.” (Everything in quotes in this paper is from Warburg)

Secondary Causes of Cancer
There are many secondary causes of cancer like poisons, microbes, radiation, foreign objects in the body, viruses, retroviruses and other injuries.

But, there is only one prime cause of cancer. The only things all cancers have in common is that something took away the cell’s ability to breathe, mechanically, chemically, or energetically. The prime cause of all cancers is impaired cellular respiration.

Cells are constantly dividing. When any newly formed (embryonic) cell is denied 35% or more of the oxygen it needs, its mini breathing mechanisms and respiratory enzymes are no longer saturated with oxygen. When the oxygen transferring enzymes in the cell are no longer saturated with oxygen, the cell is damaged severely - as respiration decreases irreversibly. Respiratory enzymes not saturated in oxygen end up just like if you burned up your car engine by running it without oil. This can happen within two rounds of cell division under low oxygen conditions. As respiration falls, the cell struggles, but can’t keep up the high energy production levels normally sustained by converting oxygen into ATP energy.

As the cell’s damaged breathing (its high energy producing complex) fails, the cell loses all its higher functions and de-evolves, or “de-differentiates” into a simple plant type cell. Cancer cells often are seen as green under proper magnification just like a plant. Why does Nature convert the damaged human cells into “plant” cells? Because that’s the only option left that can still maintain life. Plant cells use fermentation, a much simpler and inefficient form of energy creation common to simple organisms. Fermentation is a simple process that converts body sugars (glucose) into a weak form of energy and produces a lot of lactic acid. But fermentation is so inefficient that it only allows the cell to grow and grow and grow. The damaged cells can no longer be special individuals (differentiated) with special functions. Think of this process as Life trying to continue in the form of a plant, since the human form is no longer working correctly.

ATP, adenosine triphosphate, is the energy currency of the body.
1 mole of fermentation lactic acid produces 1 mole of ATP = cancer.
1 mole of oxygen during respiration makes 7 moles of ATP = health.
If circumstances keep denying these severely damaged cells access to 35% or more of the oxygen they need, they keep growing, but incorrectly. That’s why we have to remove the external cancer causing agents. The cells know they are lacking in energy, so in a valiant attempt to create more energy, they ferment more and more, while trying to catch up. And when it comes time for them to reproduce, the damaged cells make exact copies of their own damaged selves which in turn make more copies of more fermenting cells. I just described cancer.

“For cancer formation there is necessary not only an irreversible damaging of the respiration but also an increase in the fermentation.”

If the host body is suffering from radiation or other poisons, is low on oxygen, and doesn’t have lots of active respiration enzymes, these unnatural conditions allow these fermenting cells to spread. Their unregulated growth and increasing amounts of waste products crowd out and choke off the oxygen from normal cells, and they eventually take over slowly.

Latency
Latency? Not exactly. The takeover may show up many years later, after the first damage when the respiratory enzymes were no longer saturated with oxygen, and the normal cells turned into fermenting cancer cells. The cancer silently grew and grew and grew as the fermenting cells took over. “The most important fact in this field is that there is no physical or chemical agent with which the fermentation of cells in the body can be increased directly: for increasing fermentation, a long time and many cell divisions are always necessary.” And, “The mysterious latency period of the production of cancer is, therefore nothing more than the time in which the fermentation increases after a damaging of the respiration.”
This is why it is useless (except as part of the proposed repair) to only cut out or irradiate a cancer without reversing the underlying causes. Without enough oxygen, the normal cells will just keep mutating into acidic fermenting cells. In the very earliest stages of embryonic development normal body cells ferment for a bit, but quickly evolve and the fermentation drops away and is replaced by normal oxygen respiration only. But if the oxygen is kept low during their development, they have to keep fermenting to survive. When this happens they mature as fermenting cells! You can remove small tumors, but the surgery may release fermenting cells into the body. If the body is not clean, and saturated with oxygen and enzymes, the fermenting cells may find new homes someplace else. “There would be no cancers if there were no fermentation of normal body cells.”
Unlike oxygen using cells, fermenting cells have, relatively speaking, incomplete digestion. They excrete mostly lactic acid and depending upon where they are in the body, other actual metabolic toxins and amines that freeze up muscles and cause other damage like further blocking respiration. The elimination of toxins is another burdensome drain on the body’s resources.

Summary
To summarize, anything that causes cancer somehow lowers the body’s ability to carry oxygen to the cells, or damages the respiratory enzyme transport of the oxygen into the cells, or damages the reactions in the cell using the oxygen to make energy.
There are many secondary causes of cancer. A lot of money has been wasted funding research on chasing these tangents. The prime cause is known, and we need to focus in on that. If anaerobic retroviruses are attacking the body and disrupting cell respiration, we know viruses and bacteria only live in us because cellular oxygen levels are too low. The low oxygen levels could be made worse due to the continual piling up in the body of pollution and foreign substances. Or, the body could defensively be growing aberrant capillary networks starved for oxygen around foreign objects like implants. Many women sadly called me after getting breast cancer from breast implants. Or poisons or x-rays have damaged the cell’s respiratory enzymes.
“Carcinogenesis by x-rays is obviously nothing else than destruction of respiration by elimination of the respiring grana.” You can kill cancer cells with chemotherapy or radiation because cancer cells are weaker. Normal cells appear, at the treatment time, to survive these poisons because they are stronger, but their respiration has been damaged. And we know what that means in time:“…the descendants of the surviving normal cells may in the course of the latent period compensate the respiration decrease by the fermentation increase and thence become cancer cells.”

Repairing Respiration (Getting Rid of Cancer)
Is it possible to fix the problems? Indeed, I interviewed hundreds of newly converted Oxygen Therapy using healthy people that were once cancerous. Many of them had doctors that had sent them home “to die” because “there’s nothing more we can do.” Standing there talking with these bright eyed healthy survivors, one by one for 12 years, yes, this experience has convinced me the problem can be fixed for the vast majority who correctly follow the protocols.
Warburg postulated that because young cancer cells with partially damaged respiration live in the body almost aerobically, inhibition of any further growth on their part using fermentation should be possible by repairing their damaged respiration before the fermentation gets locked into a mature cell.
Three preconditions exist for his proposed repair. Like planting a garden to raise healthy cells in, you have to clean up and prepare the soil before you plant.
1. All growing body cells be SATURATED with oxygen.
Warburg emphasizes again, …all body cells be SATURATED with oxygen... So grab your favorite oxygen therapy and get at it. As Mr. Oxygen has said for 12 years, “Flood The Body With Oxygen, Properly and Safely”

2. External cancer causing agents are kept away, at least during the treatment.
Stop smoking, drinking, using dope, breathing poorly, and eating processed, hydrogenated, and unhealthy food, being X-rayed, working around toxins, or being depressed. Start exercising.

3. Safely flood the body with (replace the damaged and missing) active groups of respiratory enzymes. As Warburg said, “These enzymes are harmless and should be increasingly added to food, in the greatest amount, even forever.” Be careful, not too much iron.

Warburg’s Active Groups of Replacement Respiratory Apo-enzymes
Iron salts like Ferric Fructose, Iron Fructose
Riboflavin (B2) Important for body growth and red cell production.
There is no known toxicity to riboflavin. Because riboflavin is a water-soluble vitamin, excess amounts are excreted by the body in the urine.
Nicotinamide (B3) (Niacin) Niacin in high dosages gives a redness flush from increased circulation, and may cause itching. Pantothenic Acid (B5)
Cyanocobalamin (B12) required for phase one detoxification of chemicals in the liver
Cytohemin (plant iron groups) Beet crystals, chlorophyll, spirulina
d-amino-leuvlinic acid (precursor to oxygen transferring hemins, heightens sugar utilization)
The body will attempt to normalize the metabolisms of cancer cells by using the extra active groups of enzymes we give it. The body’s attempt to normalize the undifferentiated cancer cells normally results in their elimination. It is therefore expected that the growth of metastases can be inhibited with the enzymes. If the respiration of the body cells can be kept intact by adding enough enzymes, cancer could be prevented.
Keep doing these three things: oxygen boosting, carcinogen removal, and enzyme replacement, and the body should halt any further growth of fermenting cells. Then one exercises patience and just waits for the old damaged cells to die out and be digested. This may take months. Bromelain is an excellent enzyme supplement for digesting this old dead cell protein.
(My favorite Warburg quote) “These proposals are in no way utopian. On the contrary, they may be realized by everybody, everywhere at any hour… The prevention of cancer requires no government help and no extra money.“

Cancer Prevention
What if you don’t have cancer, but don’t want it either? Don’t worry, you’re covered.
Warburg Stated, “To Prevent Cancer:”
Keep the speed of the bloodstream so high the venous blood still contains sufficient oxygen. (Add seaweed extracts like Dulse to your food to boost the metabolic rate, drink lots of clean water, exercise regularly, especially by rebounding, and using a Chi Machine.)
Keep a high concentration of hemoglobin in the blood.
Always add the active groups of respiratory enzymes to the food and keep increasing them if a pre-cancerous state has already developed. Check my website for the best current combo.
Exclude external carcinogens rigorously. Live and work where it’s clean.

According to a major cancer society, 175,000 women have breast cancer nationwide in 2001. Why is there so much cancer? Remember, keeping the oxygen up, and the respiratory enzymes intact, are the keys to the prevention and repair of cancer. We know sufficient oxygen is chronically missing from our food and environment. But what about the enzymes you assume are in your food? After all, eating fresh means that the enzymes are all supposed to be in there, aren’t they? Watch out, even if you try to shop correctly you can be shortchanged. Here are a few quotes from a typical anti-cancer (Stop Cancer) web site.
Cooking Destroys All Enzymes

Unfortunately, cooking any food at temperatures above about 116 degrees Fahrenheit kills all enzymes. All canned or bottled foods contain no enzymes because they are cooked before being processed. Most fresh-frozen vegetables also generally have no enzymes because they are usually dipped in hot water before freezing.

Commercial Farming Destroys Enzymes

Even The Raw Vegetables And fruits You Eat May Be Enzyme-Deficient!
Raw vegetables and fruits can be an excellent natural source of enzymes. Unfortunately, they contain no enzymes when they are picked "green" (often the case in supermarkets because they have to be transported over long distances). Enzymes can only develop when they ripen on the plant. Irradiating food, or treating it with preservatives can also destroy enzymes.

Cancer and Enzymes

And vnow consider that collective groups of fermenting cancer cells - just like colonies of bacteria - will protect themselves as best they can from your own immune system, because they are trying to survive.

“Cancer cells hide themselves under a thick coat of adhesive fibrin, a coat that is some fifteen times more thick than the fibrin over normal cells. The thickened coat hides away their suspicious markings, including their antigens, from the body's immune defenders.”

And under low oxygen conditions,

“The cancer cells with their sticky coating can adhere to tissues where they congregate and multiply. To throw the body's immune cells further off track, the cancerous cells may slough off their antigens. The immune cells immediately attack these harmless proteins but leave the cancerous cells unharmed. It is a type of warfare that could make a military general envious.

The cancer cells grow because of the absence or inadequate presence of enzymes that are capable of stripping the fibrin away from the individual cancer cells. Adequate enzyme activity can lay bare their antigens and so pave the way for their destruction by the body's immune cells.”

Echoing Warburg’s admonishment, “These enzymes are harmless and should be added to food, in the greatest amount, even forever.” the anti cancer site goes on to say. “The more cancer cells the body produces, the more enzymes that are required.”

Apart from all the people I interviewed who no longer have cancer because they “saturated” their bodies with oxygen during clinical ozone therapy, is there any recent proof that saturating the body with oxygen or its higher forms like ozone can slow or stop cancer? Try this one out on a skeptic:

Proof Oxygen/Ozone Works on Cancer

1980 Aug 22nd Sweet F, Kao M S, Lee S-CD (Dept of obstetrics and Gynecology, Washington University School of Medicine, St Louis, Mo) & W. Hagar (St Louis Air Pollution Control) publish in "Science" Vol 209:931-933, a U.S. peer reviewed scientific journal, their study: "Ozone Selectively Inhibits Human Cancer Cell Growth." They announce "Evidently the mechanisms for defense against ozone damage are impaired in human cancer cells." "All of the cancer cells (lung, breast, uterine and dometrial) showed marked dose-dependent growth inhibition in ozone at .3 and .5 ppm" while the normal cells were not affected. "Evidently cancer cells are less able to compensate for the oxidative burden of ozone than normal cells." They also stated that ozone inhibits cancer 40 to 60%, and up to 90% in a dose dependent manner. [The ozone dose used was way too low to show what can really happen! Try 27 mcg!]

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News about anti-aging www.nanoaging.com

2004-09-28T00:08:02Z

News about anti-aging --> www.nanoaging.com

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web site down for last two days

2004-08-11T02:30:04Z

Bruce what is wrong with the immortality institute web site?

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excerpt from: I Am That

2004-04-01T00:31:53Z

I Am That (now in its 11th printing) continues to draw new audiences, and to enlighten anxious seekers after self-realization. Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj was a teacher who did not propound any ideology or religion, but gently unwrapped the mystery of the self. His message is simple, direct, and yet sublime.

Here is an excerpt from the book:

The real does not die, the unreal never lived.

Imagine a big building collapsing; some rooms are in ruins and some intact. But can you speak of the space as ruined, or intact? It is only the structure that suffered and the people who happened to live in it. Nothing happened to space itself. Similarly, nothing happens to life when forms break down and names are wiped out. The goldsmith melts down old jewelry to make new. Once you know that death happens to the body and not to you, you just watch your body falling off, like a discarded garment. The real you is timeless and beyond birth and death. The body will survive as long as it is needed. It is not important that it should live long.

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Immortality Research

2004-03-24T04:33:23Z

I have found that time-travel is very helpful as a tool or adjunct into perpetuating my existence. Anyone else agree that it is helpful? Just as preliminary feedback, would anyone join a "Time-travel" tribe?

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immortality---- from the Gita

2004-03-04T00:09:38Z

http://www.thebigview.com/download/bhagavad-gita.pdf

Lord Shri Krishna said: Why grieve for those for whom no grief is due, and yet profess wisdom? The wise grieve neither for the dead nor the living.

There was never a time when I was not, nor thou, nor these princes were not; there will never be a time when we shall cease to be.

As the soul experiences in this body infancy, youth and old age, so finally it passes into another. The wise have no delusion about this. Those external relations which bring coldand heat, pain and happiness, they come and go; they are not permanent. Endure them bravely, O Prince!

The hero whose soul is unmoved by circumstance, who accepts pleasure and pain with equanimity, only he is fit for immortality.

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Check out Cory Doctorow

2004-02-03T01:02:17Z

He published an Immortalist-like book called "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" on the internet. Completely free download.

http://www.craphound.com/down/download.php

Very good read. Any discussion?

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One route open to immortalists - Announcing a new THst tribe: MetaBrain Growth Process

2003-12-02T09:02:17Z

Join it at: http://MetaBrainGrowthProcess.tribe.net

MetaBrain Growth Process tribe is dedicated to the exploration of processes to extend human cognition into alternative substrates.

From cyborg components for theraputic and augmentative ends to the ultimate goal of moving sentient entities into faster, more powerful, and more durable hardware (~5,000 ave. lifespan estimates) in a safe and effective manner, this tribe is intended as a center for discussion, networking, and collaborative effort.

(If you enjoy this topic, you should find the various other Transhumanist tribes of interest.)

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Immortality Institute Book Project

2003-11-26T08:04:06Z

The Immortality Institute is putting together a book of thematic essays and discussions for publication in 2004, with proceeds going towards the first Immortality Institute conference in 2005. Organization is proceeding apace, and submissions on basic and advanced issues relating to physical immortality through science are being sought. The deadline for submissions is January 15, 2004, but earlier is always better. The announcement can be found here:

http://imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=99&t=2276

and more details on the proposed book itself can be found here:

http://imminst.org/book/

If you would like to talk about the planned book, jump into the Immortality Institute forums and have your say:

http://imminst.org/forum/

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TransVision 2004: Call for Proposals

2003-11-18T03:38:36Z

TransVision 2004: Art and Life in the Posthuman Era
JJR McLeod Auditorium, University of Toronto
July 30 to August 1, 2004
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Website: http://www.transhumanism.org/tv/2004/

Call for Proposals
Deadline: March 1, 2004

Include all of the following information in a two-page proposal for your presentation:

- Title of presentation
- Type of presentation (i.e. talk, performance, exhibit, video, etc.)
- Program track to which topic relates:
- Transhuman Art and Culture
- Transhuman Science and Technology
- Transhuman Ethics, Law, and Politics
- Other (see list of suggested topics for examples at the TV04 Website)
- Objective(s) of the presentation
- Description of the content and format (300 words or less)
- Abstract (25 - 50 words) for inclusion in the conference program
- Presentation space requirements, media to be used and audiovisual equipment needed (if any).
- Designated contact person (only one per proposal)
- Complete name, title, organization, address, phone and fax numbers, and e-mail address for each session presenter
- Brief biographical sketch (50-100 words) of each presenter

Please submit your proposals electronically to World Transhumanist Association secretary James Hughes Ph.D. at james.hughes@trincoll.edu. If necessary, you may submit your conference proposal to Dr. Hughes by mailing it to him at: Trinity College, 71 Vernon St., Hartford CT 06106, or by faxing it to: (860) 297-4079.

Deadline for submissions is March 1, 2004.
Please attach the paper the presentation is based on if it is already written.

After notification of acceptance of your paper, all presenters (at least one per presentation) will be required to pre-register for the conference. Presenters not registered by June 1, 2004 will not be included in the program.

For more information see the conference website at http://www.transhumanism.org/tv/2004/ or contact the conference chair, George Dvorsky at george@betterhumans.com.

Proposal Selection Criteria

Proposals will be selected based on the following criteria:

- A clear and concise description of the proposed presentation
- Relevance to conference goals and objectives
- Evidence of presenter experience with topic
- Completion of all information requested

Timeline

- Proposals due by: March 1, 2004
- Notification of acceptance: May 1, 2004
- Deadline for conferees to pre-register: June 1, 2004

Publication of Proceedings

If your presentation is accepted, you are strongly encouraged to submit it as an electronic text by June 1, 2004. Electronic contributions will be considered for one of the following publication venues:

- Academic papers will be considered for publication in the Journal of Evolution and Technology
- Non-academic essays and talks will be considered for publication in the online magazine Transhumanity
- Some of the audio, graphic and film material will appear in the WTA's online gallery of transhumanist art

Session abstracts and information about the presenters also will be included on the site.

Taping of the Proceedings

Conference panels and presentations will be audiotaped, and in some cases videotaped, and made available on the web.

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Welcome Fellow Immortalist

2003-09-17T18:13:54Z

Immortality Institute – Mission: to conquer the blight of involuntary death.

You may wish to check the homepage of ImmInst.org for updates from the world of immortalism. We also have an rss feed: http://imminst.org/news/rss.php

Or you can skip the drill and join directly to receive the newsletter.
http://www.imminst.org/join

Hope to see ya there.

Regards,
Bruce Klein
Founder ImmInst.org For Infinite Lifespans

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